Boom Goes The Stigma

Texas-Sized Joy

September 21, 2022 Hunter Moen, Anna Klein, Max Margolis, Michael Hawes
Boom Goes The Stigma
Texas-Sized Joy
Show Notes

We were joined today by Michael Hawes, the executive director for the Pacific Northwest Carpenters Institute (PNCI). We discussed his involvement with the apprenticeship program and how he has helped transform ideas into action by combating stigma to create a safer and more accepting work environment.

  • 1:23 – Summary & Themes of Episode 
  • 3:50 – Introduction & Mike’s background 
  • 6:17 – Mike’s mental health involvement timeline 
  • 17:45 – The generational & cultural shift in Construction 
  • 22:37 – Creating a safer work environment & using the growth mindset 
  • 27:40 – What are the challenges/barriers in implementing these programs? How do we overcome them? 
  • 30:10 – Life after the apprenticeship program 
  • 34:47 – Using language to break down stigma and normalize the conversation 
  • 36:30 – Resiliency & Preparing your staff 
  • 39:00 – Transforming thoughts into action 
  • 40:17 – Closing remarks 
  • 44:37 – Credits  


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People referenced:
Judy Cushing – Founder & CEO emeritus of Lines for Life 
Steven Frost, LEED AP, CHST, ASP, CSP – Construction Environmental Health & Safety Engineer 
Cal Beyer – VP of Workforce Risk & Worker Wellbeing for CSDZ 
Greg Borders – CCO @ Lines For Life  
Crystal Larson – QPR Statewide Coordinator & Community Training Program Manager @ Lines For Life


Topics referenced:
Pacific Northwest Carpenters Institute (PNCI)
QPR Institute | Practical and Proven Suicide Prevention Training (Question, Persuade, Refer)
About MHFA - Mental Health First Aid
We are teens helping teens • YouthLine (oregonyouthline.org)

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